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Jul 09, 2006

Blown away

First, let me state that the Catherine Tate bit at the end is entirely irrelevant - just a set-up for Xmas. Don't care that it broke the mood a bit, I was still drying my tears at that point.

Wow, what an emotional rollercoaster. The Dalek vs Cybermen stuff was awesome, and I'll deal with plot-holes later, but hats of to RTD for daring such an ending, with unexpected happiness - Pete and Jackie being together again -  and Rose's misery, but also with her dying in such a way as to allow for comebacks.

Now the niggles. How come Yvonne could resist Cyberisation? Was the process interrupted by the Daleks? My suspicion is that RTD didn't want her to have no redeeming features whatsoever - the reason that Gene Roddenberry didn't like the Romulans. Why did the Time Lords imprison millions of Daleks rather than destroying them? Well, that leads to a point:

the Doctor owes an enormous debt to the universe for failing - as Tom Baker - to destroy them at birth. He seems fated to pay by defeating them throughout eternity (and come on RTD - who are the eternals), but always at great cost to lives of others. perhaps RTD is planning to deal with this.

A Dalek sect? Possible. Could arise from the pro and anti Davros times, or could arise from early in the process of creating the Daleks, where individuality hadn't been totally erased. Otherwise such individuality could only ever be imaginary and nothing could be learned from it.

However, the question of why Cybermen created in an alternate world should resemble Mondas cybermen is still problematical.But there is a strong element of fate running through RTD's work, so we'll have to see.

As for Catherine Tate, well, like her or not, at least we know she won't be the new companion. No wonder they announced Freema Agyeman's role during the week, people would have been SCREAMING!

Comments

Hey, everyone seems to have forgotten that there is at least one other time traveller on Earth - Adam. Yep, i guess he got his whiny backside sucked into the void too then......

Joy! I'd forgotten all about that. Unless he'd eaten so many pies his fat arse couldn't be shifted.

I really hated Adam.

And what about poor old Sarah Jane and K9?

Hells, it's the tip of an iceberg...elderly Jo Grant is in trouble too.

I've remembered now, (the joy of thinking Adam had died blinded me) it wasn't time travel but dimension hopping which caused them to be sucked in. *humph* no hell for Adam.

Ahh...you're right, of course. Jo and Professor Jones are safe!

Erm ... the void thing only works for people who went through the dimensional void to that other reality. Not just any time travellers hanging around -- after all the Cybermen didn't travel in time...

Also don't forget Adam was from the year 2012. Even if the rift could have affected him he would have been 6 years away from it. Of course that does bring up the question of why Van Statten didn't recognise the Dalek after a few million of them swarmed London!

Before anyone else looks it up, the Doctor (Jon Pertwee) was on his own when he visited an alternate world in Inferno.

Oh yeah - Van Statten... Someone's going to have to press a hefty Apple Z at some point. Doctor Who's of old were usually able to pass the whole thing off as mass hysteria or something, with the Doctor noting in Remembrance that humans are just great at concealing the truth from eath other. Somehow there doesn't seem any way that UNIT or Torchwood could push the past couple of years under the carpet unless they have huge versions of those MIB memory zappers. It makes everything since Aliens of London just that little bit problematic for me now... The Doctor Who Earth is a very, very different place to ours. Is that just me being petty?

Torchwood + Alien transmitter in London Eye = big flashy-thingie. They probably saw what the Autons & Nestene did and went "ooooohhh round of applause everyone kill it now and take its toys!"

Maybe they'll make a sequel to Love & Monsters and have Cybermen crash into Elton's flat and a Dalek fall through his skylight. And no i'm not saying such a story would be a good idea.

I think it was just the general Cybermen design they recognised . I expect to see a new design if Cybermen from 'our' universe come into play .

Yvonne resisting conversion could have a few contributing factors - the odd occasional glitch or an strong personality notwithstanding , there's the psionic training Torchwood staff have ( i'm assuming shes had a little more than thr guy downstairs had ) and also it was at the point when the Cyberleader was killed , so their systems may have been slightly affected / looking elsewhere .

Perhaps the idea with Yvonne is that duty is intellectual, rather than emotional? If she had rationalised Torchwood and the British Empire as "good" (providing structure, and control), then the emotional inhibitor wouldn't change that view. Of course, that wouldn't explain why all the other cybermen were so obedient, rather than sitting around engaging in intellectual arguments.

Just out of interest - what happened to all the Cybermen created over here? They wouldn't have been through the Void, so are they still wandering around?

"Maybe they'll make a sequel to Love & Monsters and have Cybermen crash into Elton's flat and a Dalek fall through his skylight."

We did wonder what would have happened if the Black Dalek had opened up the Ark 200 metres over Canary Wharf, only to find the Daleks inside were the old non-levitating type. EXTERMAAAARGGGGHHHsplatboomtinkle.

But a brief scene with Elton and the Face of Blow would have been nice.

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